8 hours ago, hfg2 said:

This is the code that marked as flipped some of the bones: (https://github.com/search?q=repo%3AModdingClass%2FTK17-Custom-Bodies-plugin+isFlipped&type=code)

	lowerBodyList = [ "hip_R_joint", "vagina_L_joint01", "clavicle_L_joint"]
	breastFixList = ["breast_L_joint", "breast_scale_L_joint", "nipple_L_joint01", "nipple_L_jointEnd", "breast_deform01_R_joint01","breast_deform02_R_joint01", "breast_deform03_R_joint01","breast_deform01_R_jointEnd","breast_deform02_R_jointEnd","breast_deform03_R_jointEnd"]
	lipsFixList = ["upper_lip_R_joint01","upper_lip_R_joint02","upper_lip_R_joint03","upper_lip_R_jointEnd", "lower_lip_R_joint01","lower_lip_R_joint02","lower_lip_R_joint03","lower_lip_R_jointEnd"]
	headFixList = ["cheek_R_joint01", "cheek_R_jointEnd","ear_R_joint01", "ear_R_jointEnd", "forehead_joint01","forehead_jointEnd", "nose_joint01", "nose_joint01","nose_joint02","nose_jointEnd"]
	eyeFixList =["eye_socket_R_joint", "eye_brow_R_joint01","eye_brow_R_joint02", "eye_brow_R_jointEnd", "eye_R_joint"]
	specialCaseList = ["rib_R_jointEnd", "butt_R_jointEnd"]
	fixList = lowerBodyList + breastFixList +lipsFixList + eyeFixList + headFixList +specialCaseList
	empty["isFlipped"] = False
	if name in fixList or hip_R_joint_child or vagina_L_joint01_child or clavicle_L_joint_child : 
		empty["isFlipped"] = True

So in practice for me the left arm joints are flipped.

So focusing on the right arm should give you proper joints orientation from start, easier to work on that first, not taking into account flipping that must be applied on the other side.

ok I think I did it. upper arm collisions under control. thanks to your tool I was able to find the correct orientation for the shoulders (same as the clavicle) and I believe the rest was already working. need to do some more testing but I'm positive that another step towards fully controllable collisions has been taken here.

thanks!

WORKING!! OMG this took me the better part of my free time and sleep last week. 

• No more rotations in pass file, all default values
• Custom UV for growth mesh
• Custom armature with very detailed bone orientations in XYZ
• Possibility to create different growth meshes in Blender and import them into 3ds Max and start with hairworks, or
• Simply keep the mesh for the growth and simply start combing and export apx directly into ActiveMod in just a few simple steps.
• Python script to inject collision spheres into existing hairworks (with the same orientation)

Now I need some sleep, this kept me awake the entire week

On 12/18/2023 at 10:48 PM, vi363R said:

WORKING!! OMG this took me the better part of my free time and sleep last week. 

• No more rotations in pass file, all default values
• Custom UV for growth mesh
• Custom armature with very detailed bone orientations in XYZ
• Possibility to create different growth meshes in Blender and import them into 3ds Max and start with hairworks, or
• Simply keep the mesh for the growth and simply start combing and export apx directly into ActiveMod in just a few simple steps.
• Python script to inject collision spheres into existing hairworks (with the same orientation)

Now I need some sleep, this kept me awake the entire week

 

For the moment this is the outcome. It includes an example .max file to start from. With that, creating hairworks has become a whole lot easier, it is now really the art of combing

Most likely I'll create some new meshes in the future, for more complex hairs, or different splits. The one included has an (overlapping) split between left and right.